Annyoing pops and clicks bug with OP-1 OS #235


#6

sadly “can’t recall” isn’t good enough. means we need someone with 225 to perform the steps you’ve outlined and report.


#7

I’m sure :wink: But you’re right. I asked a guy from #235 topic who stated running still #218 to verify.

Otherwise it’s a bug regardless of when it got introduced :slight_smile:


#8

have u tried doing a factory reset and see if the issues are still there?
i know for me, the reset often fixes lots of lil quirks that accumulate over time.


#9

Sure. But still there.
Would you mind to check if you can reproduce it?


#10

OS #225 has the click issue too

1 play sustained synth
2 press rec and play to record to empty tape section
3 press stop without releasing synth note
4 release note, lift take
5 play where take was

at the end of where the take was there’s now a click, unmarked, on the tape.

i can record silence over it and lift it out (losing lift/drop buffer in the process)


#11

I just did a factory reset and I am still getting a click/pop at the end of multiple dropped loops but it depends on what the sound is. If I use a sampler/suitcase then it pops at end / start of the loop. If I use a voltage synth preset or something that has a very fuzzy sound I do not hear it.
The click/pop is more apparent between multiple dropped loops but it’s not audible when the tape jumps from the very end point to the in point of a series of bars. So it’s as if the cross-fading (if that’s what is is) works correctly only at those ‘bar loop’ in and out points.

I can confirm @eesn this behaviour too following your list.


#12

Thanks for checking it. It’s strange to me however. I haven’t changed my workflow but now I experience much more pops and click sounds on the tape than before #235.


#13

coincidences could be at play here, for instance the content you used to loop previously may have been less bass-rich, pops are very audible if the OP1 cuts something loud and bassy from the timeline, not smoothing the edges.
I think 218 will be the same. What could be really interesting is if a way-older OS, e.g. 14203 or something didn’t have this bug at all.


#14

Just got a brand new op-1 on OS 235, and I have this bug as well.
Got pops on loop edges too.

Does someone has any news?


#16

Pops/clicks happened at the end of loop, that’s right. It’s been solved since then. However we’re speaking about pops and clicks left on the tape after lifting a loop :slight_smile:


#17

Sorry to correct you but we are NOT just speaking about clicks left on tape after lifting a loop.
The title of the post is fairly open…
Please read my first comment as there are a number of things that are happening.
It would be good if more of you would confirm that what I describe happens - I cannot believe that it only happens on my unit since the latest update!


#18

@jasl, different issue indeed. In fact I don’t think it’s a bug, it just happens with bass-heavy content or any material on which the 0 has been shifted (= “DC” component). I wish TE would simply revisit this whole thing and stop doing this crazy overwriting of take edges, and start smoothing/interpolating their edges upon playback.


#19

As mentioned before by others I used to experience this problem on an old OS. I found you could navigate to the part on the tape with the click or pop and simply lift them off. This only works though on a clean tape, can’t help with loops, but it might be that you are recording over a pop or click from previous tape editing? Used to drive me nuts, annoying it’s resurfaced.


#20

I’ve noticed this bug on the last few OS’s. For me, it always surfaces when I’m laying down some audio to tape with Nitro on. Then I hit stop, lift my take (because I need to redo or whatever) and the pop is there on the tape where the end of my take would have been. As @OPNed mentioned, you can record some silence over the pop and lift to remove. In rare occasions, when I record silence over my pop and lift to remove, a new pop forms at the end of my silent take. Definitely an annoying bug, but have seen it before the most recent update.


#21

Complicated to list all the cases…
For the moment, I cannot work more than 10 minutes without having a pop.
I definitely have the bug explained in the original post. 80% of the time, when I cut (properly) on a sequence, I get a pop at the very end. Often have them in loops…
Then I came up with ghost pops everywhere, and it cannot be removed every time with a silent record. The only way to remove everything is to completely erase the tape.
I really hesitate to return it. At this price flag, I hardly tolerate these bugs after 3 days of use…


#22

Blockquote I’m on 218 and I have the problem. Followed your directions exactly, took about 20 seconds. Can’t believe I haven’t noticed this before :tired_face:


#23

Blockquote In regards to your 2nd statement. I experience this when I lift all 4 Tracks. Ie. I record something to track 1 & 2 while 3 & 4 are blank. When I drop there is a red/blue line on 3 & 4 as well, but definitely still blank. I usually just lift the blank graphic.

Is this specifically what you meant @jasl??


#24

yes this is one of the things I noticed though I am not so bothered about it - it was confusing at first but atleast it does not affect audio…
The audio problems should be prioritised. That is unnacceptable no matter how they happen.


#25

These issues were extensively discussed here a few years ago and then after A LOT of complains (I think we even did a petition) TE provided some partial fix. You need to consider that it mat not be possible for them to improve things further without a full revamp of the tape implementation. I agree it would be very desirable but I would not hold my breath for any further improvements.


#26

Same issue with 235. So I added drums on than clicks so it wouldn’t be so annoying.:grinning: