Yeup. That clever lift trick is the best way to undo / foolproof your audio segments.
Doesn’t help with the clicks but sure is helpful !
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Hey, curious what do use for “declicking tools?”
I’m using two main tools.
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iZotope’s RX Declick tool. It’s easy to use and, as long as it’s a melodic chop with next to no percussive element in it, yields great results. Can be very transparent. Although, in this day and age, I find it more and more lacking some AI refinery. Used to be an industry standard, but I’m benchmarking other tools at the moment.
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my DAW’s fade tool. Be it in addition of the declicking tool or as a full replacement, I dare to say it’s one of my top 3 DAW tools of all times. I use it mostly to get rid of that click at the end of a loop. But, if I’m editing a clicky drum loop or a slap bass, I try to refrain from the Declick tool since it will likely try to get rid of some percussive elements.
I’d say, all in all, declicking can take from 2 minutes to 15 minutes in the worst cases.
That’s why the very fact that the op1 Field lacks this feature is really amazingly amateurish. I can get behind all the other limitations. But this one? That’s the first thing I say to people visiting my studio and wanting to try the op1 Field. It’s a 90% perfect machine that just lands a 30% finished feeling. Just because of that.
My own opinion, tho.
And, as it happens, I kept it in hope of a future update. I try to advocate people to ask for a fade tool directly to TE.
If you need more details, hit me up!
The problem with “lifting and dropping” is that it will often introduce clicks at the beginning/end of otherwise unaffected sections. This happens on the OG1 not sure if it does so on the Field.
It does.
Both the OG and the Field suffer from this one omission/flaw.
Has TE ever acknowledged this problem? It was driving me crazy today. I can’t for the life of me understand why they can’t fix this.
I think most people know this “trick” but it’s not a substitute for an actual undo. For example what if you accidentally press the record button and ruin your take?
It’s the weirdest thing.
I guess they are waiting a certain number of complaints to do something.
After all, they did wait 10 years to implement a velocity function with the keyboard. So audio clips might not be a priority now. And, that’s TE’s magical reasoning, the engineer that coded the whole thing might be thinking that there are workarounds (spoiler alert, there are none).
For this particular one, there are tedious workarounds.
For instance, I usually lift in the memory any region I wanna make sure I don’t effe up. And I drop it somewhere else too (another unused track, the end of the tape). Just as a fail safe. And then, I make sure to delete it once I’m all good.
that’s what i do as well and unless i have a ton of other orphan snips in my track its a pretty easy method
May I add an observation: Loop clicks are sometimes more audible after switching back from another tape. Or appearing for the first time. Noticing it especially after switching the OP1f on again.
one thing ive stumbled upon that helps minimize incidence of clicks/pops is if you record with a loop active and allowing your recording to continue into the start point of the loop (even with silence) because when i would disable the loop and record past the mark and then use the scissors to clip, it would often cause a pop if i was in the middle of a transient but somehow by having the loop around thing i mentioned above it happens almost never now
Good point! After experimenting for a while I noticed that this helps indeed
Still I get some clicks on loop start after waking up the OP-1F.