Hey guys
What are your thoughts about the Ableton move ?
How does it compare to the op-z
Thanks
I have both, and they’re very different beasts.
The Move has only four tracks, as opposed to the OP-Z’s 16 tracks, although you can use any track for anything on the Move. The punch-in fx are a cool part of the OP-Z, and there’s nothing like that on the Move.
The sequencers are about equally capable, although the retrospective recording (capture) is a slick feature of the Move you don’t have on the OP-Z.
The build quality is much, much better on the Move, as are things like the pads. It feels like a professional instrument, not (sorry!) like a TV remote control that has a speaker. The speaker sounds better on the Move, too. But the OP-Z is far, far more portable – the Move is definitely something you’d probably need to think about packing somewhere.
Both have pretty easy to do sampling.
I like them both, but am finding that the Move just clicks with me better. Maybe it’s having to have had dealt with the double-trig problem on the OP-Z, or the fact that the Move presets and speaker sound better, but it just feels more like an “instrument” than a toy. The Ableton / Note integration is just awesome.
If you really love the OP-Z, you may not like a Move, If you’re really into using Ableton, to me the Move is a no-brainer.
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Double triggers are what ended my love affair with the op/z
I am not familiar with ableton or workflow of it, but it seemed like it was a better groovebox than other things out there for some reason . I was impressed with the review and demos and the features .
But at the end of the day, my op1F just arrived and I have a ko2 that I haven’t used much , so I should just stick to the stuff I got maybe , especially since I’m not an Ableton user , it’s like maybe I would be in over my head - I liked the videos but step components and the sequencer are what made the z awesome along with punch fx like the ko2s - so at least I have punch fx with ko2
Only have a few pieces of gear (two TE, one Roland , one korg) so I should probably wait and see the videos and demos again
Thx for replying
Stick with the OP-1F, at least for a while. The OP-1F is awesome, and has been all over the place with me – I don’t travel overnight without it!
Keep an eye on the Move and see what software updates bring (assuming they update, which they’ve kind of said they will) and whether or not it fits. If you get into Ableton for anything, it definitely makes more sense.
Enjoy your OP-1F!! You’ll have a blast!
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Would’ve bought the move instantly if you could record audio in as clips which is really a fundamental part of ableton. It’s very strange that you have to sample audio in.
Background - I have two OP-Zs (got one as a spare from a random-very-cheap-Amazon-Warehouse deal that was too low to ignore !), an OP-1f and OP-1 og.
I have used Ableton for many years and have had the Push 2 from release.
I got the Move on release - mainly to use when I am away with work - the main attraction is the seamless integration with Ableton, which is amazing. For me (due to my lack of skill and imagination), I dont view the Move as being for complete tracks - I view it as something to play with in a hotel room once a fortnight and on the couch to play with ideas. It’s nowhere near as deep for sequencing as the op-z.
It feels really solid (but I had to return the first due to a broken pad!)
Bottom line - without the ableton integration I wouldnt have been interested - but, because of it, it is absolutely amazing for me and I havent used the op-z or op-1 since I got it…
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Since the cool sequencing tricks on the OP-Z are very simple to code and require no major cpu performance or hardware, I’m hoping Ableton will continue to upgrade to Move with these low-hanging fruits. While all my gripes with my beloved OP-Z are only related to hardware/form factor.
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Hmm… not 100% convinced on this one - often they lead to unintended consequences - bloat, complicated UI, odd behaviour, etc unless very carefully planned… the planning and design is usually far more involved than the actual coding…
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