OP1 and DT are totally different approaches so it's hard to compare them IMO. DT is a cool box for sure, the only thing preventing me from swapping my OT for one is my love of fader scenes.
Yeah agreed, not sure how we got to comparing Op1 to DT 
Very different animals. Yeah, scenes/Fader are by far my favourite of all Elektron’s function/idea implementations. They’re crazy for not running with it across all boxes as a kind of ‘trademark’. Would love to have had em on my AK…
Absolutely loving the Digitakt. Feels a lot more immediate than my OT ever did, a lot of that is down to the ease of trimming samples and the two rows of trigs being more "keyboard like" than 16 buttons ever could be. And the reverb and delay sound lovely.
Looking at DT in isolation it’s a pretty good box. No argument. I just never really had enough of an issue with OT not being immediate/sounding bad etc to have that stuff anywhere near the top of list of things I’d be excited to see added/fixed/expanded on in a new Elektron Sampler. DT could have been a really amazing box but it feels like Elektron put their foot on the breaks pretty hard…
^You’ve got to remember it’s half the RRP of the other boxes. If they started adding more stuff I think the immediacy would be lost. Too many options can be detrimental, I am learning this the hard way and which is why I’m selling a lot of my gear!
not sure how we got to comparing Op1 to DT :) Very different animals.
Yep, I forced a comparison on the basis of value for price, because the OP1 seems to get a pass for a lot of things it does wrong or doesn’t do at all, at a higher price point, so seemingly when it’s TE it’s ok, and when it’s Elektron it somehow isn’t ok. I understand expectations are different and the product shapes are different, but it still felt too close to double-standards.
It’s seems an ok comparison as both are very well implemented with a slight extra cost for this. It’s nice to have something do its job well and they share this.
^You've got to remember it's half the RRP of the other boxes. If they started adding more stuff I think the immediacy would be lost. Too many options can be detrimental, I am learning this the hard way and which is why I'm selling a lot of my gear!
Yeah a lot of people seem to feel that way. I’m from the other side tho. I hate limitations and workarounds and tiny memory or the neccessity for multiple boxes/project house keeping etc. PITA having one box for trig conditions, one box for timestrech etc. Just give me all my sampling functions in one box 
Not sure how having slices or timestrech would make it any less immediate for people that actually ‘wanted’ limitations? Just use the parts you want to
I love limitations 
The chromatic range is still quite limited tbh, my only disappointment thus far. Keyboard can go -24 to +12. Can’t rememember what the OT was.
OT’s range isn’t too limiting, but I was disappointed that it only goes one octave up from the standard pitch (iirc)… which means that if I want to play high leads using, for example, the AKWF single cycle waves, I need to pitch them up in an editor and then transfer back to OT.
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Haha, each to their own re limitations 
FWIW I use timestrech for much more than just loop playback 
timestrech keeps any sample used chromatically sounding way more authentic/useful across pitches. And can also make slices of a loop lock in to bpm etc (I dont mean like a corny loop download pack I mean like field recordings and other interesting rhythmic stuff). I always hear about old school timestrech hacks but they seem like a total vibe killer (especially if auditioning sounds/ideas etc) and bad quality/different effect compared to legit timestrech. I think some people kind of enjoy to problem solve when making music but I’d rather just be able to follow stream of consciousness and move fast with minimal compromises to where I want to go in that moment. Like there’s no insert delay on DT 
I use individual delay speed/feedback on each track in OT… Etc etc… DT’s just a step backwards in too many ways for me and would drive me insane with workarounds/compromises (not to mention constant backing up/emptying of the stingey 1gb +drive) for a 2017 £700 box… YMMV tho, not everyone is making the same kind of music so some features are more important to one user than another.
Yeah, I’m also quietly hoping trig conditions hit OT mki But with Elektron I’m not sure it’s something they’d add even if it was possible with the old hardware as probably be seen to lose too many DT sales. Would love to be proven wrong…
I'm guessing the DT has the option to tune a sample higher than an octave up?
I don’t think so but not at my DT to check. I think if you tune up on the sample page you hit a “ceiling” when p-locking pitch notes. I think if you want to go higher or lower you need to resample.
Agree a good bit with CalloftheVoid here. 700 is a lot for a box with software that needs to be plugged into a wall and only does a limited amount of things that a sampler in 2017 should be doing off the bat.
I'm guessing the DT has the option to tune a sample higher than an octave up?I don’t think so but not at my DT to check. I think if you tune up on the sample page you hit a “ceiling” when p-locking pitch notes. I think if you want to go higher or lower you need to resample.
On DT, you can get 2 octaves up and two octaves down.
Compare it to what Beatmaker 3 is offering iPad users for £19.99. Pair this with a capable Akai MPD controller and you've got a portable battery powered super sampler and sequencer that can do enerything (pretty much) that's on the wishlist for digitakt.
It has become the thread where we compare one fruit to another, hasn’t it… A few things the iPad doesn’t have out of the box without adapters: audio in, balanced audio out, DIN MIDI, clock/sync, tactile feedback about the button your finger is on; that and you always have some latency when touching the glass. Granted, you can have a full DAW on the iPad, you’re not limited to just one instrument…
Would probably rather get a Volca, Electribe or OT, the DT seems kind of boring tbh. You could get a used OT for the same price as a new one… 1000x more flexible as a sampler.
Would probably rather get a Volca, Electribe or OT, the DT seems kind of boring tbh. You could get a used OT for the same price as a new one... 1000x more flexible as a sampler.It's not all about raw specs though, and I say that as an OT user. I doubt many people bought the OP1 based on specs alone, in fact it's pretty pitiful in that regard. So it's understandable that people are enjoying their DTs based on a vibe that transcends what it is on paper!
Would probably rather get a Volca, Electribe or OT, the DT seems kind of boring tbh. You could get a used OT for the same price as a new one... 1000x more flexible as a sampler.It's not all about raw specs though, and I say that as an OT user. I doubt many people bought the OP1 based on specs alone, in fact it's pretty pitiful in that regard. So it's understandable that people are enjoying their DTs based on a vibe that transcends what it is on paper!
Op1 is so unique tho… I bought mine almost entirely for the portability and audio tracks. Bunch of things out there that are the same kind of box as DT tho - Es2, Deluge, mpc live… and OT being most obvious. Not saying they’re the same as DT, each has pros/cons. But out of all those boxes the DT is the only one that feels like it intentionally sells itself short imo.
I’m just not so onboard with the ‘it’s focused’ marketing spiel. Slices/timestrech/polyphony/insert fx/performance macros/more memory/more lfos wouldnt make it un-focused at all as a 2017 sampler imo. There are already equally potentially confusing/distracting features for newbies/tweakers etc onboard - Trig conditions, the granular stuff, ctr-all etc. But conveniently for Elektron that’s all stuff that isn’t on OT and vice versa… Ugh. Just seems achingly contrived from my POV.
Doesn’t make it a bad box, just makes me reluctant to throw money down on one at that price. They’ve spec’d and priced it from inside the Elektron bubble, primarily against OT, but they aren’t the only players at the table and time is moving forward. Especially with digital stuff… Things like BM3 on ipad and Deluge, those for me are the products of currently ambitious, creative devs. DT reeks heavily of design/feature decisions that were made focused heavily on profits/convenience/roadmap rather than evolution or bang for buck…
Yeah, it looks fun and sounds great. Elektron aren’t stupid and want them to sell If I had a ton of money + space I’d have grabbed one. But sadly I don’t have £700 to lay down on something that in the most part ignores most of the progress/features that sampling (or memory etc) has accumulated in the past 40 years I mean, look what they achieved before with OT, it’s like they spent the last 7 years trying to curb their own skills and learning how NOT to make a modern sampler…
I might be interested if they offered a battery version with mem card, without midi tracks/external sequencing functionality, for like £400/450 including overbridge pro for separate outs. Something that felt bit more like an entry level 2017 sampler at an entry level price… The additional midi side of it kinda justifies the price at the moment. But annoyingly that doesn’t make it any deeper as a sampler so the current functionality just feels kind of arrogant if only looking at it as a £700 sampler…
So it's understandable that people are enjoying their DTs based on a vibe that transcends what it is on paper!
So it's understandable that people are enjoying their DTs based on a vibe that transcends what it is on paper!
This.
No one’s arguing that it isn’t a fun box Could put an Elektron sequencer on a pair of spoons and it would be fun/deep. Just a shame imo that they weren’t more generous with sampling features and overall power/spec… Each to their own tho
Yeah, it looks fun and sounds great.
How very true. As a former OT user I have been enjoying my DT more than I ever did my OT and at £540 it cost £300 less than my OT did. You enjoy tapping glass with your Beatmaker 3 and I will continue enjoying my DT. Everyone’s happy.