I mean I own an OP-1f too, it’s sitting right here. I don’t want to take 2 devices with me to do what should be possible on the xy alone. It’s the more expensive device. I’d even pay for the feature dlc style. I need a way to record my guitar over the rest of the music. It can be way stripped down feature-wise, but needs to be able to record a track length erm track. Cue points on the arranger would be nice. Whats the point of making the rest of the music if theres no way to record your own takes over top? Come on now
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and a count-in obviously
This is why I have OP-1 Field, and now a Deluge… and not an OP-XY
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This is why I have OP-1 Field, and not a Deluge… and not an OP-XY
Off-topic!
Just a note on this statement: Deluge supports both sequencing (in a more flexible way than OP-XY) and recording long audio tracks even over an arrangement (that device has a very intuitive arrangement mode).
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Thanks for the reply - typo in my original post, I meant to write “now” a Deluge, rather than “not” a Deluge haha
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And Super Nintendo should have been able to play NES cartridges. Alas.
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There’s a real need for a portable device that’s built around writing and recording actual songs. Patterns to make evolving A sections and B sections, but also long recordings of voice and acoustic instruments. The techno techno techno people are a bit baffled by this suggestion in my experience but I’m sure there’s a market.
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Just buy an op-1 field too. That’s TE’s solution. Lol
Agree. And dead on how I feel. If your aim is to create ‘real music’ I guess. The op-xy comes closer than any device (besides a laptop or deluge) but without (even a reduced and barebones) op1 tape track the plot to creating a full track gets lost IMO. Also I don’t always know how many bars I’m going to want to solo for, which you have to dial in before hand. Let me build the track then play over it, like darn
Yeah, I actually already have one. Plus the CM15 (amazing product) and a bunch of other TE stuff. I don’t want to lug around yet another piece of gear just so I can record an instrument track. That should be an essential part of the op-xy workflow. You build a backing track and drums etc lay it all out then record your instrument and vocals over top. That is how the workflow should be. Anything less than that seems like a cop out. Sadly I’m about to sell both of these devices on the used market, because neither of them cover what I want to do completely. A simple workflow that I’m sure countless musicians of all instrumental backgrounds essentially yearns for. Its 2 steps forward and 1 step back and its really tiresome. Beyond that, the integration between the two devices isn’t even tight so even if I was willing to constantly charge and manage these 2 devices it would be a lackluster exp vs just plugging into the laptop imo.
Anyway not ranting at/against you, more hoping to inspire discussion that will lead to the essential features being added to this device, before I sell them all off, give up on them and just build a small modular case.
XY is a brilliant piece of kit and with this it would be a desert island, without it the laptop will always reign supreme. End rant
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Look at any music making device and it seems like at least a portion of people using it say it could work better for them if it had insert feature. Why not give the OP1 more functional sequencers? It’s the same argument. Things are what they are. If you don’t like it don’t buy it. 
if you think there’s a demand for something better, why not be the one that makes it.
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What’s with the whole “just accept it” mindset?
No one’s asking for the moon — just pointing out where things fall short. Saying “it is what it is” when something’s clearly underbaked. Why defend mediocrity?
I already bought the thing. Twice. And I’m seriously considering ditching both and walking away from the platform.
And for what it’s worth — I did build something better in eurorack.
Your comment doesn’t help the discussion at all.
No man what im tired of is this air of entitlement that any device someone spends their money on needs to have updates after the fact that work for them in specific ways / for specific purposes.
If it doesn’t do what you want it to do why even buy it?
You’re not wrong that if it had a tape track it would be more powerful but the fucking thing can’t even record a sample longer than 15 seconds or whatever - it’s clearly not built for that and it’s clearly not going to happen. This is a specifically designed instrument for a specific workflow.
You could argue any number of other things that would make it more powerful in a bunch of other areas, too but what’s the point that’s not what it is / how it’s used. Tacking on a tape track feature would require soo much additional work on the hardware, software, ui, edge cases and they’re barely keeping up with bug fixes on what’s there now.
Not to mention the functionality you desire is 100% achievable with their OTHER flagship device (that you already own) hooked up via USB. Both battery powered both roughly the same combined size of something like maschine+ or deluge etc that can do what you’re asking for.
I’m just tired of reading comments from people who seem to be more passionate about complaining about shit than they seem to be about actually making music or talking about the things their gear can actually do.
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Yeah we are super entitled for wanting to add a vocal track to our song. It could literally be a stem recorder/player with no timeline editing that plays along the whole thing. They knowingly added the little glitch tape looper thing, they know FULL WELL what they are doing
But I supposed if this is the music you are trying to make then everything works as needed in its current form. And we probably do seem entitled for asking for basic things that would enable the creation of a song that other people would want to listen to
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I certainly agree that being able to add a vocal track on the OP-XY would be nice. I also have an OP-1F which I love, but when just using the OP-XY it would be nice to just easily lay down some vocals on the top - even if it wasn’t the full tape track experience from the OP-1F