The OT is pure magic. I had one a while back but sold it when I got a push 2 in order to fund my OP1. As much as I love the OP1 and ableton w/ push, I’ve regretted the OT loss for the reasons mentioned above. I’m currently saving up for a new OT and a Analog heat to grit it up.
Anybody got an MS20 mini? I’m always intrigued by the standalone modular vibes of it, but can still act like a “complete” synth. That said, I played one in a store a few years back and it felt kind of poorly made. Anyone got one and had any troubles with them breaking? Doesn’t seem to be many horror stories out there, so maybe they’re not bad at all?
I have one, but am currently putting it on the chopping block to fund that OT. Feels kinda cheap but havnt had and issues in the 2-3 years I’ve owned it. The more my Eurorack has developed the less I care to use it.
Analog four + 0-Coast is the craziest combo, I love it !
But I’m no keyboard player…
The OT is pure magic. I had one a while back but sold it when I got a push 2 in order to fund my OP1. As much as I love the OP1 and ableton w/ push, I've regretted the OT loss for the reasons mentioned above. I'm currently saving up for a new OT and a Analog heat to grit it up.
Interesting that you find the OT better than Push +ablets? Or are you saying that it does a different job that you miss, and you still want it to do stuff that push is less good at? I would think push 2 with ablets (i have them) would be good at resampling, but maybe too many options or something? Less “live”? Which is ironic considering it’s namesake…
The OP did mention the OT as an option, haha.I still have a morbid curiosity about it though, even though I'm def leaning towards a prophet - they are $1699 new in aus at Awave - can't believe it. They were about $3k last time I checked.A workmate of mine swears by his OT, and was telling me how you can constantly resample in the background while you're improv'ing, then use the crossfade to loop a section of the recording, mess it up, and then crossfade back to the original.Sound complicated AF tho!I just picked up a SP505 to bounce back and forth between it and the OP1 - the OP1's re-sampling is sooooooo much easier. Same with Maschine, I wish it was simple, but it's just a few too many steps, a few too many default parameters you have to set (and cant save you're own default - stupid) so it kills the flow for me.
So maschine resampling is too complicated, and you can’t save your own defaults to make it easier? Like you have to reset it each time you use it or something? I’d read that they just updated maschine to make it way cooler (trying to compete w/ mpc live?), but I guess they didn’t address that issue you mentioned…
PS. @millbastard, really enjoyed your using the phrase “morbid curiousity”! HAHahahahah… Story of my lief
Not better, just different. I have no plans on ditching ableton/push.
@anfim hit the nail on the head about the “enslaving tricks” such as cross fader scenes.
If someone knows how to emulate this kinda flow in ableton I would love to know.
Also, I’m at a point where I want to go out and play my material live and don’t wanna use a computer for that. That’s a huge pull for me towards the OT and the AH.
Back when I had the Octatrack before I always had to add a touch of decapatator to really give it the grit I want. At that point (before the AH) I was looking for some out of the box solution but nothing did what I wanted under $1500. Now we have the Analog Heat and its exactly what I wanted with some extra goodies (filters, eq, lfo). I feel it is a reasonable price given all it offers.
@millbastard thanks mate! Haha, yeah. I believe that phrase will become a staple of mine.
Thanks for all the info. Really good to know.
I guess an SP 202 is really gonna be SLoooooooow then… That makes it considerably less appealing. Maybe something like a microgranny would be more useful & appropriate for me… By the way, you’ve given me a new idea for the OP-1… I could potentially record something live (maybe an endless sequence for instance) to a track, then put the ear on, and effectively have 2 effects applying to the recording… Of course, potential issues include 1. some phase 2. problems balancing the direct to track with the stereo bus (ear) signal 3. having to mute any other channels / the click… But still, I don’t think I’d thought to do this… Funny, it seems obvious in hindsight, like I knew that you could have 2 effects stacked by using the master + channel fx, but didn’t think to pipe something straight to tape that way (I had thought to do it to album, but I don’t use album so much yet, although I’m inspired by @docshermsticks and @jonesy_op’s comments here https://www.operator-1.com/index.php?p=/discussion/3083/op1-s-downfalls#latest
Actually, @PsychickCV just taking a closer look at the analog heat, and it’s actually quite nicely priced… I think I had read early on that peeps were wining about the price, and I guess it stuck in my head.
Your original post is full of an array of variety. Nothing really specific geared towards a certain sound or era. That means that there are so many options!
I’ve been checking out some sounds and there are two that have my drool factor at 100% wet.
The first came as a surprise. The OB6 is as PHAT as fcuk. Proper lush sounds on that one. 80’s magic! Just check out this review… https://youtu.be/bPVhtVuYk8w
I’m sure it will remain a beautiful classic just as my second option… The MiniMoog Model D.
What a beast this machine is. The Model D is pricier than the OB6 but after my most recent purchase it is obvious why. I don’t have a Model D but I do have a SE-1 by Studio Electronics. It’s three oscillators, frequency cut-off, and tone could communicate with whales from the top of Mt. Fuji. Check out this…
There are some other options that are less pricier. I recommend buying a really good synth and then lining up with pedals and effects. Hours of fun.
What’s your list looking like now?
Maybe it’s used, but not clearly labelled
Update on this - I’ve decided to put the money aside for now (!!!) and wait for the MPC Live to come out. Really want to have a look at it to see if it will cover my needs. Been watching all their vids and like how it’s got a lot of Ableton-like features (realtime stretching, clip launching) alongside what looks like a really solid sequencer. I love the idea that you can start an idea on it, using your main CPU, then save it to the hardware and continue working on it away from the CPU. If it’s as easy to transfer them as they make it out in the sonic state vid then I’m all in.
I wonder if the mpc live “abletonish” features will be as rad as they sound. Ie. Warping?