If you had all this TE gear, how would you cable the whole thing up? Probably synchronizing by BLE, all audio into the tx6, then aux out into the op1.
What do you think?
Ah, the million dollar question as I sit here trying to charge both the tp-7 and tx-6 plugged into a common USB hub. .
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i wish they all had an extra usb port
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Personally, don’t have any real need to sync the TX- if I really need time synced delay or tape stop I’ll just tap tempo in.
In most situations I think op-1 does better as a master clock, and I would argue makes the most sense considering the tape tracks and ability to shift speed/pitch.
I do use the Retrokits RK-006 w/USB hub to use op-1 as master to EP-133 and several other non TE devices. Clock and transport isn’t so much the issue as is-
Powering all these when they are communicating (clock), or using the dedicated USB connection when passing audio to/from TX and TP.
in theory op-xy would be the brains of the operation, slaving op-1 (i’m using field) via usb-c and op-z via midi out using a stereo cable to line module. but op-xy’s current firmware doesn’t seem to support disabling usb-c charging, so as a result, you’ll get significant line noise with such a set up as op-xy charges off op-1f. i haven’t tested this with an og-1 yet, though.
EP-133 is the perfect gateway to connect all kind of gear.
To use XY as a master brain to control everything, I would connect XY to EP133 via TRS midi.
Then I have an extra USB-C from EP-133 to connect to TX-6.
Connect XY via USB to OP-1f
Connect EP-133 to OP-Z via TRS midi
Then I still have clock out from EP-133 to go to anything else.
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Any thoughts out there on how to accomplish this without having to connect OP-XY to OP-1 via usb-c (assuming te won’t likely get around to updating to allow for “charge off” on OP-XY when connected to OP-1f)?
The sound from charging doesn’t bother me as much as the fact that the OP-XY battery would have to be in a state of constant charging…
Or, any other ideas on favorite ways to connect OP-XY, OP-1f, EP-133, and TX-6?
i haven’t read through the entire thread so please pardon me if im missing something in my response. you can easily connect all these devices together in myriad ways. it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. have you shared your goals/desires/ideas for this somewhere that you can point me to?
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Thanks and here’s some more info that might help…
In short I’d like to sync audio coming from op1f into tx6 with separate audio from opxy in tx6 (preferably relying on ble for midi instead of usbc).
I’ve tried a number of configurations with the three devices. The closest I’ve been able to get to something desirable has been op1f midi clock out and opxy clock in, with audio out lines from op1f opxy into tx6…
However, with identical 4 on the floor samples on each synth (“pattern” sequenced on op1f and step sequenced on opxy), I’m not getting the beats to hit at the same time. OP-1F controls the clock, but op-xy audio seems to be coming a quarter second later.
Hope that makes sense and thanks for help!
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ok nice, got it. thanks for this. the midi implementation on the op1f has bugs so in my experience its a fool’s errand to try to get it to “play nice” with other midi devices with respect to midi clock/time messages. it does great with midi notes and cc etc, but midi time/clock it doesn’t do well. your mileage may vary though and you should still try to achieve what you want, but for me personally when i need to have the op1f be in sync with another device for a given track, i just time it the good ol fashion way by hitting play at the same time. prob not what you wanted to hear lol but that’s just my honest opinion after laboring over every single combination of midi settings and master/slave configurations etc.
all that said, the devil is in the details and there may still be way for your situation to sync them. your info above is great but if you can really spell out exactly what you are working on and trying to achieve music-wise, there might still be way.
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Cool cool, thanks and this is kinda what I feared and nice to hear that someone has experienced similar outcomes. Just thought it would be nice to incorporate the two devices together in realtime (in a more trial and error synced up fashion).
Out of curiosity, how do your (or others’) op1f and opxy most often play well together?
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i dont have the xy, i have its predecessor, the op-z. very similar at a high level. usually, i use the opz to control the op1f whenever i feel that the op1f sequencer(s) “aren’t quite cutting it” for a certain track/performance. so midi clock is not involved in this. if im doing ambient music, then i actually use midi BLE, no wires. i.e. opz ----->BLE midi notes----->op1f
since there is a very slight but musical significant delay in BLE, if im playing music at a certain tempo, not ambient, maybe 150-200bpm or thereabouts, then its the exact same midi setup except i use the usbc cable so there is no appreciable lag whatsoever. think if it like the op1f keyboard/sequencer just got bigger rather than 2 diff devices doing their own thing.
occasionally though, i do want the opz to play something and to have the op1f playing something, and to have them both in sync tempo-wise. in this case, i will just hit play on both devices at the same time and not bother with midi clock sync due to aforementioned midi clock issues.
i should say that ive been told the midi might be getting fixed on the op1f or enhanced, so i hope this will be resolved in the not too distant future.
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one more thing is that the op1f sends a midi time control message “CONTINUE” when you hit play, i.e. not a “START” message.
however, if you put the tape playhead to 0, meaning the absolute beginning of the tape reel, when you hit play it does send a “START” message. so, if you are going to bother trying to sync the clock between op1f and opxy, try to make sure you always hit play from the very beginning of the tape.
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This is true.
It worked better for me to sync the OP-1f from the OP-XY.
I chose Beat Match on the OP-1f and set the OP-1f tempo manually. Then I press start on the OP-XY and start the OP-1f tape from any bar marker.
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