i’m an elated owner of the op-1, and getting real Z’curious and starting the hunt to find one now. i’ve read about the manufacturing issues (bending, double trigger etc) so i guess my question is if it’s safe to purchase used? were they just early copies that had these issues and then they were fixed, or was it more like their production is generally iffy, and you’re just as likely to get a bad one now as in then? i’d prefer not to spend $700 w/ taxes to purchase a new one, trying to gauge if saving that $300 is foolish, i suppose.
also, double OP owners out there, do you find they compliment each other?
side note: what a great community. thank you to all for these amazing stuff i’ve learned here over the years w/ the OP-1.
I find they work well together. Also, maybe I’ve been lucky but the OP-Z I’ve got which was one of the early ones is all ok except for the encoders popping out. I managed to fix that with the plumbers tape DIY fix though.
I have both and they are great in different ways - personally I prefer the OP-1 though I was super stoked with the OP-Z for the first 6 months… it just seemed out of this world and refreshing not to have a screen so I need to get back to it and spend time with the new updates and sample more because this makes a considerable difference.
They work very well together. In some ways the sound overlapped quite a lot until the latest update on the OP-Z which has a much nicer reverb and chorus FX. The sequencer on the OP-Z is truly innovative and the possibilities are so vast your head will explode. Atleast mine did.
I barely use the ‘media’ side of the OP-Z but it can also be a lot of fun - sequencing photos of my cat doing crazy shit around the house for example.
So far so good in terms of build quality too. Having read quite a lot of bad things I do worry about it lasting but it feels quite solid to me.
The OP-1 IS rock solid after 6 years of regular use and the battery life is still very good.
I take them both pretty much everywhere I travel and there’s always a point when I start laughing while using them… they’re so quirky it’s hard not to be amused one way or another.
I don’t think it matters which you get - there’s a lot to enjoy. If you’re lucky enough to get both then you’re in for a ride.
thank you for the generous responses. i’d absolutely never part with my OP-1 — real story, music was my life when i was younger and i play a ton of instruments, but i let is slip as i got older. i rolled the dice on an OP-1 out of curiosity a few years ago and i’m just finishing up my first album now, such an inspiring instrument and feel so indebted to TE and their sensibilities.
so definitely going to grab a Z. is there an argument to be made that a used one is actually safer, as it’s been tested and the problems haven’t emerged? or is it more likely they’ll develop in time, and i’ll be stuck without a warranty?
As long as you ask the seller about all the issues and make sure it works perfectly I don’t think there is anything wrong with buying used. If you buy new, get it from a place that has a return policy that is very good.
When I got my OP-Z I just couldn’t put it down. I fell in love with the form factor, the powerful sequencer, the ever growing features, the led interface, it was a refreshing and stimulating addition to my gear list. Unfortunately, as time passed, it began to fall apart. Popping encoders, double triggs and even a slight bend.
I would have paid OP-1 money for a premium built OP-Z because, in the end, you can always update the software but you can’t trust bad engineered hardware.
Save your money until they figure the manufacturing aspect out.
Watching my buddy play on my OP-Z the other day I took note of how hard he was pressing the buttons towards the middle, while holding like a game boy, this looks as though it may be the culprit to warped devices. I mean, if you were to really be jamming and forgot how hard you were pressing on the middle of a long device structurally it’s gonna obey physics. If you play it respectfully and don’t jam it in a bag I don’t see any reason it would ever bend. Also, my OP-Z came with the knob issue that I fixed right away and has been a perfect fix ever since. I wouldn’t mind paying a bit extra for peace of mind and the full warranty. Love the OP-Z and connecting it to OP-1 is great for jamming on both devices in sync. The workflow between the two devices can be very personal and custom, only way is to follow your own flow!