It will soon be Superbooth 2025 and after getting the TE email last week, I’ve been wondering what they might be unveiling.
It’s been 3 years since they released the OP1F, so I’m hoping there’s a raft of new features, many requested on this forum. Perhaps a jump to V2.0
for the OP1F.
I would love a OP-1F update for sure. Perhaps they are going to release something new in the EP series? Or something else entirely that’s new and unexpected
If they did, they’d have to last as well as my Sennheiser HD650’s, which have lasted me for around 18 years, and only last week the cable finally gave in.
Luckily it can be detached and replaced. I remember when I bought them cringing at rhe £300 price, but they’ve served me well. I can buy a replacement cable for them for only around £25 as well.
One thing is for sure, and that’s to expect the unexpected from TE.
All of those would be good, especially more notes for drum tracks and more patterns. I don’t mind the bar length of 4 as I can use track scaling for more bars, but i do realise that the resolution is reduced when doing that.
I can recall when sequencers allowed for quite long bar counts. The Alesis MMT-8 is a common example. I think this idea of “making beats” tends toward very short looping tracks of only a few measures. I would personally like the choice of number of measures. At present, we have a maximum of 4 measures and 120 notes in a pattern.
I used to own an Alesis MMT8. I stopped using it when I got an Atari ST and Notator.
I thought track scaling allowed for more than 4 bars, but the trade off was you can’t access the notes so easy. If that makes sense. You’ve kind of got to play it in live as there are only 16 physical buttons where notes can be “seen” (lit up)
Perhaps my understanding of it wrong though.
The 120 note limit is a pain. I’ve hit that limit on drum tracks before.
I still own an MMT-8. That track scaling is still a bit confusing to me. I think I will experiment with it today to really nail it down. Without track scaling, the 16 step buttons represent one measure, making it easy to see what is going on in that bar. With track scaling, I believe that is no longer the case. I just need to spend more time playing with that concept.
The 120 note limit seems almost arbitrary to me. 4 measures, each containing 16 16th notes comes to 64 notes. If each 16th note was harmonized by another 16th note (typically when playing 3rds, 6ths, or octaves), that would come to 128 notes, exceeding the 120 note limit. Computers “think” in terms 0, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, … as per the binary system (bit placement in a binary word). 120 notes doesn’t fit in that framework, so it seems a bit odd to me.
You’ve had your monies worth if you’ve owned the MMT8 since new
What you’ve said about seeing each step is about right. Once you engage track scaling you can’t do this, which makes editing a complex sequence either very hard or impossible in some cases.
One good use for track scaling is for triggering loops which could be 8 bars (or longer). Let’s say you’d got one 8 bar loop of vocals, and let’s forget about chopping it into a drum sampler.
To trigger that 8 bar loop, without track scaling, you’d have to cut it into two 4 bar sections in your DAW, and then use 2 patterns to trigger each 4 bar loop. With track scaling set to 2 you can now have that 8 bar loop trigger over the course of 4 bars. In this case there’s only one step trigger to worry about. So track scaling is great for these occasions as you’re not creating multiple steps, only the one trigger step. And you’ve only had to use 1 pattern with track scaling rather than 2.
Thanks for the info. I will have to play wth that idea to really understand it. I am still confused about the 8 bar loop. I suspect that is 8 bars due to track scaling rather than really having 8 bars.
It is a bit confusing. The 8 bar sampled loop really would take 8 bars to play, but all the other tracks would be looping several times in the time it takes for the scaled track to play out. Judging by your profile pic, you play guitar. If you can manage some of those chord shapes that guitar players make, then this will be a walk in the park.
I bought an electric guitar and can only manage a small number of chords. And most of those rarely sound great. I manage to make a guitar sound like a cat being strangled.
Believe it or not, there ARE well known guitar players who use many effects to achieve exactly that sound of a cat being strangled, so you are in good company. I have played for many years and toured for a couple of years full time in the late 1970s when it was still decent pay.
I have not tried anything involving sampling on the OP-XY at all, so I didn’t know you could make a sample that takes 8 bars to play. Now that I know that, your description seems perfectly clear. Thanks for that.
Thanks Roy. I am not expecting anything particular from TE, but it is good to discuss what we want. I suspect they will provide what is least impact on the existing code base (i.e. they won’t want to rewrite portions of the underlying code to accommodate a requested feature) and would otherwise focus on the most requested features. Of course, assuming they have a lengthy road map in place for future development, they would likely adhere to that instead.