GAS… Many are subject to it but gladly many of us can restrain ourselves.
However the release of the OP-XY has got me f’d up!
It seems like yesterday the OP-field came out still having lots of the fundamental problems the OG-1 had…
for example NO USEFUL SEQUENCERS , no change at all. This was my Number One gripe with the OG and was very dissapointed the Field did not get improved Sequencerwize.
With many Sequencer related request being thrown at TE nothing has changed .
Now they release a new thing ; basically a new OP-1 ,Black and with a decent ( i hope ) Sequencer. The OP-XY. Finally giving us an OP-1 sequencer experience… AT THE COST OF 2300 EUROS!!!
And no word of the Field ever recieving a useful addition to that thin list of words you see when you push the seq. button on the field.
I just felt cheated and give up on TE completley, they’re d°°ckheads & Thieves and i am not giving them that amount of money Ever again !
I just needed to get this out there sorry if inapropriate but wonder if anyone also is actually still interested in seeing the OP-Field be as useful as it should be sequencerwize , Sampling and sequencing go hand in hand don’t they?
Why did you buy the OP-1 Field in the first place if it had “no useful sequencers”? I strongly disagree with this statement. The sequencers are great but they are meant to be more performative and for you to record the audio to tape. In fact the four track tape is the heart of the OP-1. It has always been this way starting with the OG.
The OP-Z is a multi timbral device while the OP-1 is mono timbral. How could they change the OP-1 to be multi timbral? Think about how the OP-1 works. How would that even be possible without completely changing how it works?
If you expected the OP-1 to be multi timbral and to have an elaborate step sequencer (I don’t even know how they could implement this given how it is designed to be performed with the keyboard) then you were misinformed to begin with and bought the wrong device.
i’m too stupid to understand how op-1f has no useful sequencers.
it has a ton of sequencers- finger, endless, tombola, whaterver else.
what does anyone mean by a useful sequencer? isn’t it just a collection of tools for different people to make different things? to say there is no useful sequencer is missing the context of what in the world you are trying to make.
Money wise, I would have done the exact same thing as TE. You have 2 popular synths/samplers (og1 and ogz) why not try to make shitloads of money off it?
Consumer wise: I’d like to see a different route.
About the cheated feeling: don’t buy gear that you think needs lots of updates on the way. Buy gear that’s ‘complete’ in your sense.
if sequencers are you main joy in synths and the OP series don’t meet your standard there is nothing wrong with looking elsewhere
i’m baffled
why buy OG1 in the 1st place? and why on earth did you buy OP1F if you realized nothing changed significantly enough to entice you?
buying OPXY will be another huge mistake! you have to accept responsibility for your choices and stop shifting blame to TE
No need to “hope” that XY sequencer will be great…do research on it if you really want to avoid disappointment
It’s wild to me that you’re considering buying one yet don’t realize the sequencer has been largely derived from OPZ (not OP1)
$2300 is not the core problem…until you know what you want musically, you are blocking your own enjoyment and happiness
I don’t believe in GAS the way most people do and your comment confirms why
You frame us as victims but nothing TE makes is truly necessary to survival
If you want something don’t feel guilty…buy it, use it hate it and sell it. You have total freedom to do any of those things and move on to some other instrument
TE doesn’t owe us any features we crave. We don’t owe them a purchase. GAS is a myth unless you make it real
Not cheated at all … Thrilled they decided to finally to forward the Z …
A bit let down though… as its more of a OP1F + Z merging into one rather than a true spiritual successor of the Z…
What I mean by this is that the workflow and sound (very posh) are somewhat like the 1F … its based around some menus poking around and twisting knobs … nothing bad its just reflecting the 1F … perhaps that’s just the logical evolution …
The Z was really a hand held (like a video controller) and had those spinning disk as encoders … just a different feel to the touch…more handheld
I would have preferred a Z sequencer inside a liner KO2 sequencer (being able to trigger Z tracks like notes, thus abel to rearrange them on a linear pattern with samples ontop …
the KO2 is one of the Best samplers Ive ever heard and the FX are vibey… compressor/drive is punchy … and then just the PO engines which are mad punchy and raw including the speak + updated z engines… perhaps just a small display but relatively in a similar size… curved corners softer buttons and higher grade build …
Right now I can’t imagine anything directly competing with it … I may very well go for it … Although the market is very open to an alternative…Korg just introduced amazing 5th generation VA multi/poly … would love to see that in a pro sampling Electribe… But as is TE has the crown on the most portable and powerful production suit on the go …
Its a creative masterpiece… and will be very hard to top as a sequencer… hope they do clever things with the sampler #granular#wavetable#choping
I don’t feel “cheated”, but it seems TE has cranked out way too many devices to support them the same way they did OP-1. The whole space built around their gear seems to be significantly more commercialized now. There is too much hype and “boutiqueness”. That seems to be manifesting in the change of the mood (and people) on this forum as well.
It remains to be seen whether they will continue to release substantial updates for OP-1 Field. When it was released they definitely implied that it will be actively updated for years to come. The sequencers could obviously be improved. Real-time recording for Sketch. Ability to mute or add randomness in Pattern. Ability to edit in Endless. More interactivity in Hold. Etc.
GAS… i’m sick of hearing this. we are artists and enthusiasts. acquiring creative tools is not a sickness. my mother is a painter, she has 30 shades of red paint in her palette. crayola red, crimson red, blood red, and on and on. GAS is a myth to folks who think that machines will do the hard work for them and are sadly disappointed when their lack of talent or creativity becomes apparent to them. ← there i said it. creative tools are a gift to the creative, not a syndrome.
edit i wish everything was cheap and i had whatever i wanted whenever i wanted, but ideas are priceless, inspiration is priceless. so no, i don’t feel cheated
Saying you have GAS is a joke. No one thinks it’s an actual syndrome. Also these items are very expensive so sure they are inspiring but not for your bank account.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say I felt cheated, but rather somewhat disappointed.
The addition of a good programmable sequencer with parameter locking is something that has been requested for a long time. Implementing it now would take nothing away from XY.
TE definitely has the expertise to add this functionality to the OP-1F.
Indeed - a f/w update with a “nice traditional step sequencer with p-locks” would be a nice , clean (and honest) welcome addition to the op1f…BUT as it is; thanks to iOS compatibility I use software for sequencing my op1f…Until they now hopefully do update the sequencers to one old school type
I wonder when we’ll see a long due fw update for the op1f and ko2
If anyone feels “cheated” because a musical instrument maker decided to create and release something new I’d think you’d want to focus your energy somewhere else.
Lol. I know right? How can you be “nauseated” by people expressing frustration towards a company? You can read the title of this thread. Just don’t engage with it it’s it’s making you sick.
