Doubletrigs on OP-Z


#21

Have you considered exercising the warranty?


#22

Considering. But I don’t what the seller can do in this case. Maybe they send it to TE for a repairing session. Or request a replacement? I should wait months for it to happen :smiley:
However I see a sort of slow tendency on this issue.


#23

Hello. i don’t really know what are the differences between the ‘batches’ mentionned here, i have an OP-Z since one month with a M printed for the Master track, and i also have triggering issues since one or two weeks, sometimes trigs act like an arcade game’s turbo-mode : infinite random multi-trigs when holding, or just an echo trig when releasing the key. it begins to happen a lot and not only with one particular key. i’m a bit worried about this, considering this topic, i never had that issue with Pocket Operators, i’m not sure if i have to wait as much as possible to let TE fix this as it looks like a common issue, or if i should contact them now because this would only concerns a few units… :v:


#24

The first batch has different icons for the spark step components. If your OP-Z has icons with arrows on these keys, is a second batch unit. I think the first batch could have more problems with the keys, according to some comments, mine is a second batch, and I have no problems holding the keys, my problem occurs when I release some keys that generate an echo retrigger, I hope that it don’t get worse over time.


#25

i think we should respect that just the printing has changed! hardware wise it’s really the same.

i can‘t imagine that TE won‘t check the buttons with machined hammerhead tests and such.
like industrial grade testing. I do hope it’s because of stiffness and feels better after some hammering. I don‘t know


#26

i think so, but for the OP-1 this is mentionned : “expected lifespan of 10 million keystrokes per key” , while there’s nothing about the OP-Z keys. i remember having some double trigs on the OP-1 the first months, i think it has disappear over time. i always thought that for any machine this could be prevented by the firmwares, by limiting retrig speed to human possibilities, i don’t know, there could be something in the code like “the internal keys can’t retrig before 0.1s after release”…

at this moment i’m still able to use the OP-Z without problems, so i’ll wait and see. :v:


#27

just in case…please hold the 2 Keys independently underneath the black button 4 as soft as you can while running a long recording to see the trigs you make this way.
it just works on those two buttons at least for me and some others…it‘s the difference that breaks the vibe


#28

really thought the same about the button information.


#29

i tried these 2 keys and had no issue at all… but i have multiple trigs on the A and E key (near black buttons 3 and 5), i didn’t try the whole keyboard but i think there are some other keys affected…


#30

of course! but it’s in the range of the module slot.
i doubt it needs some pressure from underneath…the flexband buttons need a hard surface.
should put in some cardboard or something


#31

i’m sorry but it happens on A 2 and surely some others anywhere on my unit, and i think there’s no way to find this acceptable, i expect TE to fix this :v:


#32

talked to a reprep and he said TE looks two times in for repair and after that they exchange the Unit.
are you actually sending it in?


#33

Suddenly also getting this on a first batch OP-Z. It’s the first F and C key.


#34

yeah. it’s remarkable on all gen OP-Zs.
the Buttons are made on a flexband, the op-z is so tiny that even a difference of +- 1-2 mm leads to an unwanted behavior. the one guy who‘s actually dissembled the unit had a flexcable that was so crammed that he said it might break in time. :frowning:


#35

How about SHIFT key? Do you experience that it often loses its functionality while holding it and starts iterating through parameter pages?


#36

Not yet


#37

Mine is second batch and all keys work as they should no double triggering.


#38

I have a second batch OP-Z and have been keeping it in the original packaging. Recently I got the official TE PVC rollup bag and was thinking that when I put the OP-Z in and close the bag and put it away with the TE label facing up, the OP-Z is actually upside down with the buttons pointing down.

Could the tightness of the rollup bag and the fact that the OP-Z is upside down cause the button issues?

I don’t have any button issues (yet), but can you with issues post if you use the TE rollup bag?


#39

it has really nothing to do with a bag or cramming it into something.
it’s underneath some keys and trigs if you hold it halfway through or with at least less pressure.
the big question is: does it wore out or would it get worse!?

Time will tell or someone from TE


#40

For me it’s getting worse as time passes and more I carry and use it.