Teenage Engineering just sprung the OP-XY on us and at that price, I just couldn’t help myself from making this video:
Sorry to the die hards.
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Not directed at Liam, but there are so many cope videos on the OP-XY from YouTubers that didn’t get one for free… is this really bringing in viewership for folks?
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Yeah i’m sure there’s some of that going on !
This video is more about perspective on other units that you can pick up for the price of the OP-XY (or a lot less) - because IMO, for what it’s capable of, it’s expensive AF.
Absolutely… you can start a solid studio setup for that kind of cash.
I feel like things like the OP-Z should have been a good middle ground, but the manufacturing issues, and price disparities between their low end and high end don’t really give people “room to grow”.
I’d actually love to see more of TE’s process, because for every PO/KO release that people fall in love with, there’s plenty of sticker shock for their premium releases. What I think is missing is just something that might show how some of their premium gear tech trickles down into ordinary user hands. I can get them basically abandoning the OP-Z as it’s now kind of a sticking point for the OP brand being so dang expensive while it is barely in stock anywhere… but I’d think they’d want to have some gear that nudges people from the $300 and below space to bridge the gap into the $2000 and above space.
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i have two questions before i’d consider watching this
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is there any info based on playing opxy or is this purely clickbait about XY msrp?
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if this TE drop gave you sticker shock what makes the price of Perkons more palatable?
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Yawn.
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Lol another rant about the newest TE item with the same old perspective of “you can buy so many other things for the same amount”.
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yawn, i’m intentionally not clicking, everyone already knows what they can buy instead of an op-xy. to these clickbait content creators, let them eat cake
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I think your not quiet right in saying the Elektron sequencer is the most flexible sequencer or way above the XY one and I think that’s false, misleading in a way. I think once you start to seq your Elektrons with TEs one it’s more clear.
even the OP-Z (while live recording a sequence) is capable of holding chords, microtiming, step components, parameter locks and transposition + additive/subtractive behavior of new notes entering the track lane…
just a few things 
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Not getting the vibe on your videos related to TE for quite some time tbh. Sorry
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In regards to your Perkons point, t’s a good discussion to have - mind you it’s a much cheaper unit - and no I hadn’t tried the OP-XY before making this video.
Considering the increasing price of TEs high end line, I think that this is a totally relevant and rational discussion / reaction to have. 2300 USD was my tipping point I guess - maybe yours is 2500 / 2700 / 3000 - because that’s the trajectory we’re looking at.
Thanks for going out of your way to let us know that you’re yawning lol
When the price of the OP-XY is MORE expensive than a used Analog Rytm MKII and Analog Four MKII - I think it’s a discussion worth having - hence the video.
And yeah, maybe not a completely fair comparison because you’re venturing into the used market but I mean still … c’mon.
Hopefully it’s oreo ice cream cake cuz that’s my fav.
Everyone has their take / comfort zone, of course. If Elektron sequencer don’t jive with you that’s one thing.
On the other hand, objectively, Elektron sequencers are the most precise and flexible sequencers on the market. Once you start adding too many params, the OP-Z will just start dropping past params that you’ve added - that’s not the case with Elektron sequencers - there’s seemingly no limit to how many params you can change / step - on every step, on every channel. The amount of flexibility and creativity that gives you is limitless as far as sequencers go.
Whether it fits everyone’s workflow, of course that’s another thing.
My two cents.
They’re not for everyone !
FYI I managed to borrow an OP-XY though and will def be doing some related content - just to give it a go 
Will I buy ? Well … that’s might be another story lol
i smell bs. who in their right mind would loan you an xy? it just came out!
there are folks who ordered on the day of release who still haven’t received theirs. i ordered on the 15th and just received it yesterday! this does not pass the smell test.
Thanks for answering here 
Thomann seems to have the lowest price for Perkons but for some reason every other site I’ve found is currently showing $2,060 as the listed price. Has there been a feature/hardware revision? Not too familiar with the machine beyond seeing it in a few setups of friends
In any case that doesn’t that much cheaper than XY so I though it was a fair comparison. I guess everybody should just get it from Thomann.
Forgive me for being blunt but in context, this comes off as disingenuous fearmongering. It’s hard for me to believe that this one price set you off when you’ve taken issue with cost of every device in the field line for the same reason. You have a right to your opinion but be honest about that.
The increase in cost from TX to XY (and certainly from OP1F to OPXY) doesn’t worry me at all, for multiple reasons. 1st…cause XY actually has new features and is capable of more than it’s predecessor. Whether that’s fair to OP1F users is another discussion but they’ve added value and there’s been a corresponding increase to cover that. 2nd…once an instrument is out of my budget range, interests, or musical priorities I stop worrying about what it costs cause I’m not the target audience.
If I really need it or change my mind about whether it could be useful to me, I’ll hunt for it on Ebay or Reverb secondhand.
Interesting
My two cents? You lose credibility by comparing devices you’ve personally used with one you hadn’t. Discerning listeners would know that but I don’t think that’s what you’re aiming for with these clips anyway
To your point, objectively, Elektron makes some of the most precise & influential sequencers on earth. Not the most flexible. I’ve had the pleasure of owning DT, OT mk2 and AR mk2…all incredible boxes that if i’m honest, are truly powerful especially due to their sequencing features. I’d go so far as conceding that they are better overall than something like an OPZ…they should be though!
If you wanna tear down or question why someone would pay so much for XY then I’m baffled why you’d push Elektron as an alternative. OPZ is a fraction of the cost of even used mk1 tech from Elektron and quite capable as a midi sequencer.
If i wanted to go cheaper I’d recommend max msp, vcv or something cause you can replicate anything the Elektrons can do. I was used to max sequencers before trying the Rytm or Digitakt and they felt pretty unimpressive to me by comparison. No denying what can be done with them especially if you spend meticulous programming but the process was stiff and not as enjoyable as i expected.
From the videos i’ve seen on your channel over the years (researching OT, AR, 404 mk2 and other stuff) you have alot of technical knowledge and you make decent music…so you know what you’re talking about. I think your biases regarding personal workflow choices weaken the content in a way, making it less useful as a general resource and more of a simple showcase of whatever your setup looks like at any given moment
To each their own. I wish you’d acknowledge that just cause something doesn’t work for you doesn’t inherently make it a terrible choice for others. Genuinely feels like a lack of imagination that you can’t see any possibility of having FUN with a tool that you’re frustrated by or disinterested in
In Canada it’s selling for 2100 CAD with is about 1500 USD.
All the points you’ve made here i’ve also made in this listed video.
It’s never black and white like that and never did I use the word “terrible” to describe any TE products. I think they’re all intuitive and unique tools. I’ve done close to 90 related videos on TE products.
As for the bias, yeah for sure, i’m biased based on my own experience - and so is every creator. There’s simply no way of getting away from that.
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