New OP-1 Field 😮

So how are people getting on with their OP1Fs?

I’ve had a proper play over the last couple of days and I’ve gotta say - the general sound quality is wonderful. Each sound (instrument, drums with/without effects, etc) is so rich. Stereo makes a huge difference. Also loving the ability to work on different projects at once depending on the mood or when an idea strikes.

It’s been very stable, no crashes. I’m working on some tracks, but taking my time to get fully comfortable - I’m relatively new to the OP1 in general, so learning as I go.

Good things:

  1. The stereo sound
  2. The multiple project option
  3. Reverb - Mother is the Daddy
  4. BLE connection - the potential here is great
  5. Build quality
  6. Battery life

Not so great

  1. The radio signal doesn’t seem to be any better than the OG, but that could just be my area.
  2. The stereo path makes it more obvious (to me) that we need to be able to pan sounds in an easier way
  3. The in-built manual is a bit of a gimmick

I know that this is just the beginning - excited to see what is next!

I pretty much agree with all of your points.

I loved the OG-1 for everything it brought to the table but it undoubtedly needed a hifi modern-featured counterpart and in my opinion the OP-1F over delivers on that. I love the different tape styles, their sound and their workflow feature differences, and also being able to lift/drop between them.
I’m excited at the future possibilities for this device too.

The BLE works so well and is like super low latency in my experience. I have an Extra Deluxe 61, with a CME ble midi adapter, and the OP-1F sitting on the open space of the ED61. It’s a cable free set up.

bluetooth audio (with no latency (I can dream can’t I?)) would be soooo cool, but I guess the FM audio is a good call going to the OB-4, but I’d really dig a fully cable free setup to wireless headphones.
ble can do audio, so maybe that’s a future possibility?
for fun and jamming (not ā€˜serious’ stuff) using airpods since I usually always have them on me.
@MichaalHell have you heard of anything in the beta tester forums about bluetooth audio requests?

The other thing I’d ask for is a case option that works with a decksaver. right now i’m eyeing the Bowoo OP-1 case, it’s freaking $110 but it fits the OG with a decksaver so I assume it will fit the field, and it’s design makes me thing it wont flip the power switch in transit like the old op-1 cases. plus the lip on the decksaver protrudes about the same amount as the power switch, so overall it’s looking like my best case option right now. EDIT: read some reddit reviews of the Bowoo case and think i’m gonna pass on it.

Agreed on the need for an additional case option like the two for the og. I’m so close to cutting a slot in the padding of my case for the field’s power switch. I didn’t like the way the field seemed to need to be maneuvered into the current case on a video.

Also agree on initial reviews. The hum is gone! Keys also feel better to me. Radio signal is pretty weak.

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I forgot to mention the Keys! good call. They totally feel different to me, I like the action a lot more. The found, feel and action feel premium and now the OG keys feel plastic-y, loud and cheap lol.

They did a great job on this. and my unit hasn’t had any key issues, or software bugs (yet!) so it’s really been great.

Oh yeah, MTP, the method by which you transfer files is super fast and way better than how it was done on the OG (which felt like a firmware update everytime) now if connected to a computer you can just pop in, rename, move stuff around, drop new samples in, etc way faster than before.
(renaming on the device is really handy too if you aren’t by a computer, I found myself getting pretty quick with it)

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Would be nice if they can get that working with iPads as well.

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Comparison:

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My decksaver fits perfectly in the op-1 field bag. It’s super snug and is a great fit. It’s tight at first but stretches the bag a little for the form of the deck saver and works like a charm. This deck saver is from the UK

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Has anyone tested the OP-1 Field with the TX-6 usb-c to usb-c? Was wondering if you could control each 4 OP-1 tracks with four of the knobs on the TX-6. The guide mentions the 12 track in option via USB, but I just haven’t seen anybody connect the two devices and control like that.

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Ordered it based off you and some other folks that said it works, thank you!!!

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Me too! :handshake: @midnightoperator94

Jeremy Blake / Red Means Recording from what I understand got pretty burned out on the original, the videos he did, and the creative rut he was in. He mentioning this in a video some time ago, and has since gone down a different path with lots of different gear including a lot of modular stuff.

It wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t get an OP-1 Field.

But then he does have that new video on the Pixel app. :thinking:

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Let’s do some fun speculation to pass the time while we obsessively wait for our expensive machines. I’m not an accountant so I may be wildly off with my speculation, but it’s fun either way.

The lowest order numbers I saw associated with the Op-1 field was in the 19602XX range. The highest I’ve seen is 1925XX. So this means there were roughly 2300 orders in the span of time that orders were open for the Op-1 field.

Obviously not all of these were orders for the field. I for one ordered a field and then ordered the case separately. And then we have everybody who ordered the new tx-6 mixer, or any of their other products. For speculations sake, let’s estimate 75% of the orders were for the OP-1 field.

That means roughly 1,725 Op-1 fields have been ordered through TE’s website. We know it can’t be much more than that, however it could be a bit lower, depending on other sales.

Now let’s estimate they mark up their Op-1 field by a margin of 300%. This seems high but is not uncommon for boutique instruments like this. That means TE pays roughly $670 to produce one unit, and makes $1,300 per unit sold.

This means so far, TE has generated roughly $2.25 million in ā€œprofitā€ from these machines. How much of that goes to expenses would require further speculation, but we can probably assume most of it.

Current estimates have TE generating almost $24 million in annual sales. For a company of 60 people, this is very good, but not insane. Most people at this company are not getting rich, while there may be a few people who end up pretty well off. If anything, TE is able to pay a competitive wage to attract good talent and keep their operation growing and continuing to produce incredible products. The argument that TE is some greedy profit hungry over-priced toy maker for rich people doesn’t really make sense to me.

Anyways, just food for thought!

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Once you use the op1 as your main device one can get pretty burned out due to how tedious it is to make beats and melodies exactly how you want. This is mainly due to the tape workflow and the super basic sequencers on the op1. Yes you can make music quick on the op1 but at the cost of it sounding simple and not as dynamic since you can’t adjust things later and refine it like you can on grooveboxes like OP-Z and elektron stuff. Once you record and you need to fix some levels or whatever it becomes laborious to record again. It would’ve been amazing if they had added some new audio editing features to the tape to mitigate the tedious workflow or add some sequencers that allow for complex programming. Now of course you can just import the op1 tape tracks to your computer for further editing but what’s the fun in that ?

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@liamkillenmusic - did I spy an OP1 Field in your TX6 video? If so, are you going to be sharing any content on it soon?

Maybe it’s because I’m relatively new to the OP1, but I find the sequencing pretty adaptable. Mixing up the sequencers on a single track pretty easily and basically playing different finger sequences is pretty cool. There are things I’d like added, but I like the workflow to be honest… but then I’m coming from a ā€˜I just like to play and make shit up’ approach, rather than a ā€˜I know exactly what I want’.

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ā€œ(Not knowing where you’re going is) the best way to get someplace you’ve never been.ā€ - J. Peterman.

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How many ppl here have the OG and are also getting the field? Are you going to keep your OG?

I’m keeping the OG alongside the field and am excited to use them together in fun ways like bouncing via fm transmitter or using the OG to pan tracks for stereo sampling.

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Panning for stereo sampling: Can you elaborate on that?

For sure… using panning on the OG-1’s mono tape tracks to set up a stereo mix for sampling or recording straight onto a single stereo tape track on the field.

For example, I have a few other synths and pedals that are mono. I could layer them into the OG tape and get a nice stereo vibe going with track panning and FX, then essentially mix down onto a single stereo track on the field. Does that make sense? I’m sure it could be done solely on the field using resampling, but this seems more fun (plus some of the OG’s mojo will be applied).

Also, I can see recording the field through FX pedals into the OG, then bringing that back over to the field. Also possible with a single device but requires hard panning and clever routing through a split cable in order to avoid creating a feedback loop.

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