One thing they say they have improved tape looping in the OP-1F - this is something the OP1 could really benefit from.
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Iām not sure what does or doesnāt qualify as āmass-marketā and how that effects production costs? but the OP1 was the best selling synth on Reverb for 2021
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@Kja still waiting on a response to this one, genuinely curious!
Wouldnāt this only means it changes hands a lot?
FWIW, on Thomann, itās #13 of new sales in synthesizer segment.
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Interesting point!
I think I already realised a few hours after my comment that 8 Tracks cannot make sense because of the 4-button design under the screenā¦ of course not 
custom made 
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Good they gave him a unit!
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Sounds amazing!
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i could not disagree more especially since heās operating on the notion that the original was overpriced too
TE doesnāt owe anybody anything
i feel sorry that he feels this way but nobody shouldāve been defending a corporation like TE with expectation that they care
to me the comparison to roland fell flat
this whole response to the price is baffling
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They just want TE to make the new Op-1F cheap like if it was some type of volca and they do some crocodile tears so they can get some views on youtube. That dude is trippin. TE does some unique stuff and itās some crazy engineering to make a device like this. 2k for a complete hi-def studio? yes Iāll buy if it fits my needs. end of story.
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Agreed, I would likely use pattern sequencer most of them all if it had at least 32 (but even better 64) steps!
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I think it is due to the fact that TE is simply able to sense consumersā (or a subset of them) desires exceedingly well. Do I care that I canāt afford a car? No. Do I care that Iām not able to impulse by a TX-6 and a OP-1F? Yes. 
But I think is both pointless and to the point to complain about price. We live in a capitalist world system, after all. Itās TEās product, so they will set the price as they see fit. On the other hand, complain enough, and maybe Behringer will make a cheapo versionā¦ However, it wonāt answer to your desires as ācompletelyā as TEās products.
Itās no coincidence that TEās Jesper likes Lamborghinis. Sports cars represent desire over practicality for cars, just like TEās products do for synths and audio equipment.
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Couple of questions -
The Bluebooth midi thing - does this mean you can trigger the OP-1 via the ipad? Only asking as Scaler 3 is being developed as an app. Would be cool to trigger the OP-1 via it
Sample time has increased. What about the slots? So for multi sampling synths onto OP-1 keys? I remember it was 12 seconds before? Has this increased?
They are IMO some of the highest objects of design.
2374ā¬ at Gear4Music. WTF.
Yeah I did not mean to imply that TEās products are not great. Just that the same āfunctionalityā can be achieved with a cheap laptop. Just like a sports car has no extra utility in normal use.
Some additional info here. Main takeaways for me that I hadnāt heard mentioned before:
(1) looping issues from the original OP-1 are completely fixed. No pops or cracks etc. Should be seamless.
(2) long product roadmap for this model, with a lot of updates planned. Sounds like the spec enhancements are pretty significant.
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I just mean I donāt think itās is a accident that the last engine update on opz was exactly a new reverb and va engine just like theseā¦ the things missing most from both units. Iām not sure if they are exactly the same, but Iām sure they are very much related. I think they could have easily just have them to current op1 users free, liked opz gotā¦ instead now you upgrade hardware for themā¦
From my limited perspective of seeing the parameters I think youāre right when you say āIām not sure theyāre exactly the sameā
The Dimension synth looks to have more waveform options and a modulation and stereo field knob, the OP-Z analog synth doesnāt have that.
The mother reverb looks to have Color and Gate parameters making capable of different things than the OP-Z reverb.
Itās pretty clear to me how these two updates arenāt really compatible with the original OP-1 as theyāre both very much stereo-centric, and potentially (reverb) more taxing than the OG is capable of (both in additional storage and processor capabilities)
But i wouldnāt say anything is wrong with these updates because theyāre building on what they already have. Thatās what all companies do? Some donāt even build upon what theyāve got 
Iām looking forward to what TE continues to build on this platform!
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