OP-Z production peek #1

@cuckoo will there be a production peek 2 anytime soon ? :smiley:

@cuckoo will there be a production peek 2 anytime soon ? :D
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@erd_ @sammyjams I plan to meet the team again sometimes this fall.

@erd_ @sammyjams I plan to meet the team again sometimes this fall.

@cuckoo Cool! I probably won’t have any money to get one when it comes out, because I’m gonna spend it all on an Analog Rytm. Your latest video pushed me over the GAS edge : D

@erd_ @sammyjams I plan to meet the team again sometimes this fall.

@cuckoo Cool! I probably won’t have any money to get one when it comes out, because I’m gonna spend it all on an Analog Rytm. Your latest video pushed me over the GAS edge : D

Ouch! Sorry bout that! :wink:

@erd_ @sammyjams I plan to meet the team again sometimes this fall.

@cuckoo Cool! I probably won’t have any money to get one when it comes out, because I’m gonna spend it all on an Analog Rytm. Your latest video pushed me over the GAS edge : D

Ouch! Sorry bout that! :wink:

@cuckoo that said, I have watched all of your videos on the Rytm and feel very excited/prepared with enough dough left to be a low level patr(e)on :slight_smile:

@cuckoo @sammyjams I’m a big fan of cuckoo videos too. I think they’re really really good and sincere. I learned a lot from them.

BTW i’m an Electrical and Electronics engineering student, and i’m developing a new clever synth like the new op-z for graduation project. (Completely non-commercial) Mostly because my biggest dream is to work with these guys and i want to impress them somehow = >. Do you guys want to help me with your ideas to make it more fun and collaborative ? I have already started working on it, got the dev kits and (almost) have a working band limited Oscillator on it.

PS: I started saving for OP-Z about two months ago :))

@erd_ Sounds cool! I would love to help!

@erd_ would love to know more!

@sammyjams @GCF Well i don’t have a final goal set in the stone yet. I want to experiment with crazy little ideas along the way. Project needs to be completed around may 2017 so i have time. But in my past projects i found that keeping goals simple and limiting the time for each of them makes the process much more easy. So i came up with the concept of milestones for this project. Each milestone is an incremental project on its own. I plan to achieve 4 or 5 of them during this time. I am currently working on milestone 1 which i nicknamed ā€œmoaā€ to raise an awareness for distinct species.


For musical point of view moa is pretty boring. I said i was working on an almost completed band-limited oscillator.(I have a problem at keeping the frequency stable although i believe the problem is in the linear interpolation code, if it is indeed the case i would finish it as soon as this weekend.) My plan is to achieve some form of a synth maker at moa. With a little macOS app you could connect the little digital components like oscillators, envelope generators, effects etc. graphically to create a sound. And load this sound to one of moa’s available slots. With an iOS app you could set some parameters at the runtime too. Currently i don’t have any plans for sequencers or arpeggiators for it. But this is the initial stage like a technical groundwork for next iterations.

At the tech side of things moa has some special tech, built-in psychoacoustic bass enhancement for small speakers will be on board. (I have talked to my project supervisor about it and reading some articles about it right now. And it is much simpler than you think too =))) It uses the same family of processors that TE uses in OP-1 and OP-Z (Analog Devices Blackfin). But my dev kits doesn’t have external ram because i always buy them in pairs (they always eventually burn :smiley: :D) and when i was buying those i didn’t have the confidence to buy two of the pricy ones. I plan to buy the new kits at the end of moa build. It will have a BLE connection to the iOS which i have a lot of experience and tested frameworks & hardware. And have a special capacitive keyboard that i have made some tests in the last weeks. I ordered some special microcontrollers for capsense and expect them to arrive before end of the week. I expect the moa build to be finished in 4-6 weeks from today. But i’ll have something to show as soon as 2 weeks of time. I generally much faster in coding but this is my first time with the Blackfin processors and this processors have much less documentation and examples than other ones i have worked before. So it takes a lot of tries and errors.

Honestly i am really excited for what comes after the moa. I could use the internet connection of iPhone to enable users to collabrate with each other. Your friend can create a drum track on his device and you could add a bassline to it. And your vocalist friend can do the vocals in that instance. Some other friend of yours could send you his/hers latest designed sound for leads and even join your session. I probably cannot do all of this in a milestone. But this is the direction i want to explore with this project.

@erd_ @sammyjams I plan to meet the team again sometimes this fall.

@cuckoo Cool! I probably won’t have any money to get one when it comes out, because I’m gonna spend it all on an Analog Rytm. Your latest video pushed me over the GAS edge : D

Ouch! Sorry bout that! :wink:

@cuckoo that said, I have watched all of your videos on the Rytm and feel very excited/prepared with enough dough left to be a low level patr(e)on :slight_smile:

Heeeyy SJ! Thanks for for the petroleum, mate! Be sure to check out all the backlog of downloads!


@erd_ it sounds like you know what you’re doing. Would be delighted to follow the process, and if you want to, give some input or plant some ideas. Too much input can be daunting :wink:

Polyoptics
@Polyoptics I totally hear you. I think the basic idea is that you should be able to use it with no screen. But during the learning process, using a screen for displaying the UI can be helpful. - Then, the whole visual/ midi sequencer will be very dependant on the visuals you’re controlling. If you have your visuals on a computer, you’ll need that computer to see the visuals. If you’re running your visuals from a phone, you’ll need that phone etc.
But indeed. The OP-1 is a benchmark in UI, that nobody really has suprassed imo. So departing from a visual UI is sort of sad, but it’s exciting too :slight_smile: I think the visual part will be interesting. How will people use it? Mostly for their own pleasure? As ingredients for a live show? A whole live show based on this?
I was using the OP-Z for about half an hour or so on my own, with no screen, and it came to me pretty quickly. I had to ask a few questions about the FX section. I hope they make more distinguishable prints on the different buttons, to make it easier to read the layout. And somewhat more distinguishable LED’s, perhaps?

@cuckoo thanks for the detailed response – I’ll definitely stave off a negative opinion until I see the final unit in action or try it myself. There absolutely are things about it that I am very excited about! :slight_smile: I hope TE allows you to continue to show us these little things you see along the way, its super fun.



I too am a bit nervous/wary of this myself, the lack of the screen, the fear of it being a step back from the OP-1 but I shall remain hopeful/watchful for the future.

-Roly

> Polyoptics > @Polyoptics I totally hear you. I think the basic idea is that you should be able to use it with no screen. But during the learning process, using a screen for displaying the UI can be helpful. - Then, the whole visual/ midi sequencer will be very dependant on the visuals you're controlling. If you have your visuals on a computer, you'll need that computer to see the visuals. If you're running your visuals from a phone, you'll need that phone etc. But indeed. The OP-1 is a benchmark in UI, that nobody really has suprassed imo. So departing from a visual UI is sort of sad, but it's exciting too :) I think the visual part will be interesting. How will people use it? Mostly for their own pleasure? As ingredients for a live show? A whole live show based on this? I was using the OP-Z for about half an hour or so on my own, with no screen, and it came to me pretty quickly. I had to ask a few questions about the FX section. I hope they make more distinguishable prints on the different buttons, to make it easier to read the layout. And somewhat more distinguishable LED's, perhaps? @cuckoo thanks for the detailed response -- I'll definitely stave off a negative opinion until I see the final unit in action or try it myself. There absolutely are things about it that I am very excited about! :) I hope TE allows you to continue to show us these little things you see along the way, its super fun.

I too am a bit nervous/wary of this myself, the lack of the screen, the fear of it being a step back from the OP-1 but I shall remain hopeful/watchful for the future.
-Roly

Yeah same here. Finding it difficult to feel anything positive or negative about OP-Z so far. It’d be totally off my radar except I keep seeing this thread update :wink:
Like you say, seems like kind of a backwards step after op-1. Maybe it’s just one of those things that isn’t for me personally though or maybe once finished os unit demos start appearing it’ll click and I’ll get the point of it.

Disappointing we haven’t heard anymore about this machine considering it was intro’d at NAMM. 10 months ago.


Disappointing we haven't heard anymore about this machine considering it was intro'd at NAMM. 10 months ago.

I think they said it might be ready to sell by next NAMM. That would be my bet. The OP-1 was announced and namm and released exactly a s year later at the next namm

Yeah, it seems like that is the likely scenario. At least release some more of those secret specs TE. Implementation across iOS and unity etc would be difficult, but all that other stuff can be implemented over time, with updates no?

I hope they sort out the colour scheme. Black on small grey buttons is not the way to go.

Hello. I had a really interesting new OP-Z video ready, but in the end TE decided that they didn’t want to show it. It’s a shame. All I can say is that their vision is grand, and it’ll be really interesting :slight_smile:

Next time! Sorry guys!

Sad :frowning: