Pair OP-XY with TX-6 vs. TP-7 for Recording?

Hi,

I’m new here.

So far the OP-XY is the only audio gear I have, apart from an old acoustic guitar. I really like it. It’s a lot of fun!

I’m currently looking into getting either the TX-6 or TP-7 for recording purposes (to be able to store compositions to file).
A priority is to keep my music setup “DAW-less”, since I already spend my workdays behind a computer.

I’ve done some research and what I like about the TX-6 is that it can record onto a USB-drive as well as act as an audio interface. It’s mixer capabilities are also great, but I currently have no use for those. It’s cool that it feature some FX, but I’m possibly getting a Dreadbox Typhon soon, too.
I prefer TP-7 design-wise. I dig that it can record to an internal disk and that you can scratch and introduce glitches with the little wheel. I also like that it has an internal mic.

Any recommendations? What am I perhaps overlooking here as a noob?

Regards.

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TP7 is the clear choice if all you need is a mobile recorder & interface. Some people experience glitches and stuff with usb sticks on TX6

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just to be clear, you can scratch on the tp-7 but it does not record any of that. its only on playback of an audio file that it works…

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OK that would be a bummer! Since DAW-less recording is my number one priority.

I see. Thanks for pointing that out! I guess I could still sample scratches on the OP-XY, but that wouldn’t totally be the same.
Is TP-7 generally not able to record its playback, by for instance connecting the headphone out to one of the two-way connectors? That would be neat, but the lack of it is not a deal breaker for me.

Considering that you have the OP-XY and an old acoustic guitar, I think the TP-7 would serve you better because you don’t have a need for a mixer and you can use the TP-7 for hassle-free recording of your acoustic guitar too.

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Thanks, that’s a good point.

i thinkkk now it can record its own scratching with the mix down feature on the latest fw right?

only when paired with tx6 tho

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yeah i was thinking it might record the scratching when passed through the tx-6 but i’m traveling and am not around my hardware right now and i haven’t seen anyone actually demonstrate this yet…

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The manual mentions that the TP-7 can act as an audio interface. Could I record wheel action, like scratching, into my smartphone or the computer or can it just stream already recorded audio?

yep you can record that!

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I found a reddit post from about a year ago about this and back then it seems like only recorded audio could be transmitted via the audio interface of the TP-7.
Has that changed since?

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yes it has. there was a FW update that implemented the audio “thru” setting. i wouldn’t want you to buy the device just from my one testimonial. i hope others who’ve actually use this feature can chime in to corroborate.

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I see. Thanks! And the wheel action is also streamed along in that case?

i should test this before i confirm. when im back home i will def give this a try. can you explain exactly what you are trying to achieve just so im sure im testing the right thing?

Thanks. My main goal is to record my OP-XY “performances” in a DAW-less way.
Since the TP-7 can also act as an instrument of sorts with the wheel, I was wondering if I could introduce glitches and scratches into my songs and record these as well without getting a TX-6 as well.

that raises two questions:

  1. you’ve mentioned wanting to go dawless but also hope to use either TP or TX as an audio interface…after recording are you dumping the sessions onto another device?

  2. what’s the signal path? audio from XY fed into TP with wheel glitches recording onto the recorder itself, in one pass? or do you plan to record, stop and introduce scratch fx into the song by while dubbing to daw?

Right, the main focus is to be DAW-less and mobile when making music and recording it, but it would also be neat to be able to transfer the music to my computer for backup purposes or in case I want to share it. I get that both units can do this one way or the other.
I’ve learned that generally speaking an audio interface is needed, except maybe in case of the TP-7 which can also transfer recorded files directly or the TX-6 which can dump them onto a USB-drive. Both the TX-6 and TP-7 also mention audio interface capabilities in their guides, which is great since I could directly stream the music into an audio app. right?

Yes, for now mainly audio from the OP-XY via TRS-cable or USB-C (if that’s possible).
Later, I’ll possibly add an additional mic for vocals and/or recording the aforementioned old guitar.

Now, since the TP-7 can introduce glitches, slow downs, scratches, LOFI effects, etc. by manipulating the wheel, I was additionally wondering if these effects could be recorded as well, preferably onto the device itself, because of the whole DAW-less idea.
From the research I’ve done so far, this may or may not be possible at the moment?
I guess I would need another audio interface to capture the main out of the TP-7, like a TX-6, however I don’t want to get both and not an additional other audio interface either. I want to keep the setup minimal, if that makes sense. I’m a hobbyist.

Yep. Via usb

Ok cool! Now that I fully understand I’ll test for you

My understanding is that you can’t record wheel fx and audio from XY on device in one pass. But once recorded on TP7, it’s possible to capture all sound from the TP (including the glitches and speed manipulation) while it acts as an interface

You won’t need another interface afaik


Let’s see if the experiment works as expected!

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That’s very kind of you. Thanks a lot!

OK, so I first would have to record the OP-XY audio with the TP-7. Then I’d have to connect the latter to my computer or smartphone and record its output including the wheel action into an application, without the need for another audio interface? Do I understand this right?

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