I’m sorry. Massive devil’s advocate myself. Actually think it should work how you say. I was just reasoning why TE might think it’s difficult for the mono/stereo architecture of the OG-1 or just a confusing feature for trendy noobs who need things to be minimally configurable.
Had to accept almost 10 years ago the OG-1 was very much about limitations that force a workflow. A workflow that is largley analogous to performing a song into a four track for which you only own one 6minute tape for some reason then perform a mixdown and move on.
I have never worked that way. Always a bunch of synths and samplers full of patch memories and Cubase sequences that I keep going back to and tweaking a bit and never finish.
When I first got OG-1 I was baffled as to why they didn’t have multiple projects, much longer “tapes”, and give all sequencers unlimited pattern memories.
Eventually I realised if I went with it and just used it as a fourtrack with bonus synths and made things as quickly as possible I enjoyed the workflow TE were trying to force. It’s refreshing because my options haven’t been so limited for like 30 years. Maybe my options have never been so limited. And I found I was doing fresh things even when recording old instruments.
Don’t get me wrong. I wish your modest requests would all be fulfilled. I’m just a bit pluralist and alway do the devil’s advocate thing. People think I’m disagreeing when I’m trying to explain a situation that everybody probably already understands
The weird thing is that by not having the synth and drums tracks linked to the mixer volume and panning it does cause all sort of confusion and volume jumping when switching between tape page and synth page…
I don’t know, I admit that it might just be a matter of personal preference, so I’m fine with it as it is, maybe most other people using it are finding this way better for them!
That’s awesome that this is fixed! My OG is on 243 still since I’ve been using the OP-1 Field, I plan to sell the OG but I’m glad I’ll be Ava to update it first, test and write on the listing the masters firmware solves the clicks. A much nicer product for the new owner.
EDIT: I’ll wait for offical release though.
I was thinking that too. OG-1 resale (sale) should just collapse if everyone knew the two most recent firmwares ruin analog recording for random units.
I’ll never be able to sell though. I got my hands on a FIELD the other day and nothing about it felt or looked as good as on the OG-1. I think they’ve done a US auto industry thing and decided they should be maximising profit by reducing quality. The whole unit felt less substantial, creaky, compared to OG slab of metal, knobs feel very delicate and obvious step down. UI is straight up ugly on the FIELD.
I’ve been waiting for an OP-2 that would add substantially to the features of OP-1 for ages but I realise now that’s not how it works. The thing I imagine is not a TE type of product. The FIELD seems designed to consolidate the existing OP thing and mainly a way of massively increasing profitability of the OP. Increased price. Decereased quality
The more I think about it the more I realise you are 300% correct about the panning situation. It’s really dumb how it doesn’t take the panning from the mixer mode. I can only guess the “synth” modes are pure mono and it would be too much refactoring to make them stereo enough to take the panning over.
They’ve implemented it this way because they envisioned the synth/drum page to be a separate “playground” from the tape/mixer page, which makes sense from TE point of view, it keeps continuity with their design/vision of the OP-1, but it’s not very practical or useful (kinda like the omission of the undo button).
I have tried the firmware #246 you posted, and the OP-1 just locks up after a while. I was sending MIDI notes to it at the time, and sound kept playing, but the encoders and most buttons stopped reacting. Kindly relay that to TE as feedback about #246 maybe.
It works absolutely stellar!
Never had such a good op-1.
Last night i recorded myself playing the keys into the OP-1 and at the same time video streaming into my iPhone. Had no craackles.
They probably want it to add a feature and not just do a bug fix when they release it so maybe #246 will never be official but #247 with synth modes respecting mixer panning for Audivit.
I think it’s better from the horses mouth. If you can get it to happen again you should do a proper support ticket with TE. Be as precise as possible and if it’s repeatable then you should be able to get them to fix it. If it is a major bug then TE should fix it before they release anything.
Also at the risk of sounding like an IT professional, did you do a device format before you installed the new firmware? Being able to say up front you installed on a clean slate when complaining about bugs reduces correspondence by at least a day.
Also if you are sure you have an issue be as precise and annoying as possible. I’m not naturally the sort of person who hassles but I’ve had to train myself and force myself to do it with tech providers because they don’t care enough unless you hassle.
I don’t think more than 4 or 5 people on here are using it. I’ve had no problems. fjl had their controls freeze MIDI mode they can’t repeat. I’m discounting that because I’ve had a couple of hard crashes in older firmwares previously.
I haven’t used it much but it’s fine. Audivit seems to use it all the time and hasn’t reported problems.
Weird they haven’t released it but I’m assuming they want a feature before they release. It looks bad to do a release that’s just a bug fix and this issue seems to have a low profile so I think they’ll wait until they have a feature the release with this fix in #247 hopefully without breaking anything.
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